bonding to the defense case. after that, we'll hear closing arguments from both sides. the defense trump's team goes first, then the prosecutors will close. the judge will then instruct the jury hill tell them here's the law on the case. here are the rules to guide you and then the jury goes in for the most mysterious part of this, all the deliberation that will be entirely done in private i'm an outside of the view of the parties. all we might see from the jury is notes occasionally asking questions until they send a note saying we have a verdict at that point, they will come out and we will see the verdict keep in mind in order to get a verdict guilty or not guilty has to be 12 to zero. either way, if there's one person in the minority than it's a hung jury. and a mistrial. >> very interesting in this trial could take weeks and weeks and weeks. so we'll watch it together with you, elie honig. thank you very, very for viewers. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room erin burnett outfront starts right now

>> i'll find next breaking news, a full jury seated tonight for the trump trial, who are the 12? >> and could this mean a verdict by memorial day plus a cnn exclusive? i'll speak to the iranian foreign minister stewart live. >> he's one of the most powerful officials in iran what is iran going to do when israel retaliates? >> and how soon will israel attack and jesse ventura is here tonight, the former governor and professional wrestler one said he'd consider running with trump. >> is that still true tonight? let's go out front and good. >> evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news. we have our jury. those are the exact words from judge juan merchan, the 12 jurors who will decide trump's fate, along with one alternative, all been sworn in just moments ago so as of this moment judge merchan

says he wants opening arguments for trump's hush money trial to start on monday. this trial is moving at a rapid pace after some major setbacks this morning, they walked in this morning to jurors who had already been selected pick. they were good to go we're dismissed. it looked like a real setback, but now we end the day with 12 and an alternate. and we know that the jury for this trump trial tonight consists of seven menn and five women. and among the jurors selected just today on investment banker who says he follows trump and michael cohen online there's also a man who works as a security engineer. he says he has no social media accounts and reads a quote, smattering of different news organizations. juror number 11 is a woman who works for an apparel company. >> she was seated despite trump's lawyers arguing she should be dismissed because she said trump, quote, seems very selfish and self-serving i'm a 12th and final juror on the full panel. >> not the alternatives. is a physical therapist. she told the court she reads the new

york times, usa today and watches cnn. now, before we break down, today's developments, i want to explain that. i'm actually not in our studio tonight. i'm broadcasting now x to the permanent mission of iran to the united nations. and we're doing that because we're about to interview a ron's foreign minister live. and the united states has severely restricted his movements. he just arrived in the country for a brief visit and this is one of the only places he is allowed to go he is one of the most powerful and influential officials in iran, chosen by the supreme leader to be the face of the country during this time of incredible turmoil as the world awaits israel's retaliation for attacks last weekend, we're going to bring you that exclusive interview live here in just a moment. but first i want to get to our other breaking story. this sour and trump's jury, which could be hearing from the prosecution's first witness on monday. evan perez is out front live. he is outside the courthouse here in new york. and evan, just how

prepared are both sides if this jury pool does not stick? >> well, you know, erin, neither side really had any hesitation about using their challenges, their strikes to remove jurors that they thought should not be on this jury. and so we've heard from the judge today, it appears he is going to allow each side to have additional checks challenges in the next set of alternate jurors that he is set to choose. now, we don't know exactly how many he's going to choose we heard initially that perhaps as many as six alternate jurors would be chosen. that's a process that is going to continue tomorrow, but today, obviously, things as you pointed out got to a very slow start and then in the final hour is when we finally saw bursts of activity and we got all 12 jurors plus the alternate chosen. now, despite the complaints from the former president about the unfairness of this process, what you're seeing in these 12 jurors is a

cross-section of new yorkers. you're seeing an investment banker as you pointed out, the foreman it someone who was born in ireland and works in sales. a here in new york city. we have juror number five, who is an african american young african-american woman who says that she appreciates the former president hook for being able to speak his mind. and then of course you mentioned juror number 11, who was the one who said that she believes that the former president was selfish and was somebody who the trump team tried to remove from the jury. but she said she believes she could set aside those views and be fair to the former president and she got to stay on the jury. so now we expect that tomorrow the de will start around 11, 30. we have another panel that's all right. pretty ready to go and the judge indicated that he believes that he can get through those jurors and stick to his to his schedule, which means that we were going to have opening arguments in this case on monday, aaron all right, evan,

thank you very much. in our outfront, legal experts are with us now, also joining us tonight. elizabeth williams, the sketch artist in the courtroom with donald trump today. so elizabeth, very glad to have you with us paul martin, i wanted to start with you in your capacity as a defense attorney, 30 years of experience in new york courts tonight, we have 12 jurors. but last night at this time, we had seven and by the time they won't cup in the morning, two of them were gone. >> so do you believe this jury will hold i think so. i think it be fair to have at least six alternate jurors, eight may not be out of the question. things happen this is there's an ebb and flow in every jury trial. so i'm not surprised the fact that it started off slow, but picked up later on the afternoon. i think it's fair to say we will have a full jury, including alter alternates by tomorrow afternoon. >> so, robert, you've spent for decades picking juries, including the george zimmerman

case, among other high-profile trials, if everything goes to plan when these jurors hold is pausing to get anything, they well, you've got five alternates, at least left to choose tomorrow. how likely do you think it is that there'll be opening arguments on monday well, we've got to see it. we're starting late tomorrow. we've got to see exactly how many peremptory strikes the judge is going to give these lawyers on their alternative. i believe the statute says to peremptory strikes for each alternate. so you're looking at a bunch more hope potential peremptory strikes. he's also started getting weight, but here's the takeaway from today, erin, you can see i'm wearing my fishing tie again today and that's because the former president got another couple of great jurors on this jury, you have an investment banker with that a belongs to truth, truth, social, a wealth manager. he's got a really good jury instead of complaining about all the things he all he's a busy guy and he's got all this stuff to

do, by the way. so to the jurors, that jurors are given up a lot to mr. former president. >> he's got a great jury and i'm telling you you ought to be sending them good energy because i think you couldn't ask for a better jury at an new york and they are absolutely. >> he's absolutely going to get a fair jury so, elizabeth, you were there and i wanted to show some of the sketches that you drew of donald trump today in that courtroom. and i know you've been in the courtroom for a lot of cases involving donald trump over the year. >> so you've seen his demeanor his facial expressions, what stood out? do you the most about him today compared to other trials, or even two earlier this week when you saw him? >> yeah. well compare it to monday. he was a lot more involved on monday. he looked tired, exhausted, and he would close his eyes at times. he wasn't really sleeping, but he really was not that engaged today. he was looking, he was alert, he was paying attention.

he was you said there he's turning around looking at the jurors. these are the jurors who are requesting to be excused this is juror number two, who wanted to be excused after she slept on on it so he's really paying attention today as opposed to i was not in the overflow yesterday's, but i understand he was nodding off today. >> he was attentive. he was paying attention. he was part of his team's decision-making when it came to the after the void? here so he was very engaged so ryan, what do you what do you take away from that, especially the contrast that elizabeth is drawing that there were days when he was that he looked tired and exhausted. >> we have seen the reports that he nodded off at other times but not today. she's saying today a lot more involved very engaged. >> so in my mind, i'd actually

shows that he understands the importance of the proceedings and the gravity of what's happening and in some sense that also takes away the excuse that otherwise might have had for dozing off on the first couple of days because they excuse my be you this is boring to me or this is just a proceeding in which i don't think there's any legitimacy to it, but today shows you how much he does actually care about it and how important it is to him so robert when we look through this jury and you mentioned the investment banker that's a member of truth social well, he follows donald trump on truth social being on truth, social may indicate something, but he's also on twitter and he follows michael cohen over there. >> and i know this juror really stands out to you. this is the investment bank or male tom let me why? >> yeah. >> so first, the lawyers for both sides have an advantage over all of us pundit's because through a public record search, they know the names of the jurors they know who are the registered democrats and the registered republicans. so

that's a big advantage. >> they have that none of us have. that's number one number two. >> if this were a street crime case, this jury would would convict trump in a heartbeat. >> but this is a false business records case, right? this is not about stormy daniels is just the first domino. this is about business records. and that's why trump trump wants is a really smart during the kind of people that would never vote for him as president. are they exactly the same kind of people that would find him not guilty when he's a defender. so i understand that these may not be the kind of people that president trump likes, but they're the perfect jurors for him. >> paul, having been on both sides as a prosecutor and a defense attorney, what what stands out to you the most right now of the of the 12th, the education. >> i'm not so concerned about the gender. i think we have seven menn five women. i'm more concerned about the education. normally, a prosecutor wants

the most educated so that the defense to turn his hocus pocus won't be able to trick them. in this situation. i'm not so sure it cuts both ways. >> i think the more education does help the prosecution, but also helps the defense in this case because the defense wants to say that this case is about paperwork and i didn't fill it out. >> i have only signed it and listen to other people and that is something that an educated jury would say. well, in my own business, i do the same thing. so it really depends on that. that factor, those factors and also who's gonna be the loose cannon on the jury as a defense attorney, you want one of those just in case? >> just in case all right. elizabeth, there was something else that stood out to us and you were actually in the rooms you're one of the few people actually can be out here to talk to it when donald trump left the courtroom for lunch, he turned to reporters and he really didn't engage them much during the day until you laugh, but he said, is it cold enough and then that wasn't even the

only time just seen in the context of everything. he was really complaining about that. here he is days now from morning until night. and that freezing freezing everybody was freezing all for this elizabeth sounds like a small thing, but obviously something that can impact people, impact jurors what do you think? it's a typical thing indeed, in my portfolio, i carry an extra thermal vest and a scarf lots of judges do this. they keep the courtroom really cold because they don't want people falling asleep and notice he was falling asleep yesterday. i wasn't in the courtroom yesterday. and on monday, but this there is nothing new about this. jurors have complained i

spent a lot of time in federal court they complain and judges are going to keep a courtroom cold because they want you to pay attention. that's their job and if you start falling asleep or you defendant for it starts falling asleep, you got a problem. so it's it's a typical complaint. it's nothing unique to this at all, at all. indeed, during weinstein, they left the windows open and it was the end of february, beginning of march. the windows in that same courtroom so sorry, donald it's just how it is all right. well, thank you all so very much. and thank you for that, elizabeth. they really add some real, real sense of the situation down and there, thanks so much to all of you for being with us. next, my guest, jesse ventura, who rocked the political establishment when he was elected governor on the reform

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will be on the ballot in every state but formally crossing the line in michigan, you know, dotting the i's crossing the t's is crucial. president biden won the state by a little bit more than 154,000 votes in 2020, and kennedy support in michigan this time around, right now is surging 18% of michigan's registered voters in a recent poll, support kennedy 18%, 34%, say biden, and 40% support former president trump. you can all see those numbers in front of us in black and white. it comes as members of the kennedy family, including six of rfk junior siblings, endorsed biden, a show of force and tended to underscore that many of the most well-known kennedy family members reject jfk rfk juniors campaign and out front. now, jesse ventura, the former governor of minnesota, who's shocked the political establishment 25 years ago. sir, when you one as a third candidate and governor, i'm so glad to have a chance to talk to you, you know, 25 years ago, it goes fast you were sworn born in and yet here we are now

entering a presidential election where third-party candidate is playing a major role, no one's ever wanted the presidential level, but playing a major role. do you think that kennedy has a real chance to win? >> well, who knows? i mean, when i ran, nobody gave me a trick hey, i'm back in 1998. and i'll tell you this, aaron i think that right now i have no i'm an individual. i don't have a big bunch of people behind me or none of that. but i'll tell you this. if i had ballot access in all 50 states and i were allowed to debate, i could beat these two major party candidates they would be easier to beat. then attorney general humphrey was and i had mayor norm coleman was back in 98. and here's why humphrey and coleman were not disliked. nobody was not liking the election at all. they're selection you got two major

party candidates. nobody even wants to see their selection, let alone voted at necessarily. and i guarantee if i be the youngest candidate that's for sure well, that is for sure but my point my point is this, they call you in the media like to term things are spoilers third parties are not spoilers. >> you when you go to vote and do your civic duty you vote for the candidate or the person that you most want to be to be the president of the united states ear regardless of their party. if you go vote for the person you want his president, then you've done your civic duty. where do we get off calling its spoiler because you don't vote? democrat or republican. that's the media's way because they're locked in with the two-party

dictatorship. as my friend ralph nader used to call it. and voting third party does not make you a spoiler in fact, it makes you a correct citizen because you're voting for who you want not for because you're voting for some party. >> so so right now, what would you do? would you vote for rfk junior? >> i don't know yet rfk and i have our differences. he'd he did. i met with him about the vp job. we met one evening for over two hours and discussed it and i have all the admiration in the world for me has every right to run and certainly he's probably going to get a lot of votes. he made a choice for vice president and he'll, he'll ride that choice, be it good or bad but i certainly respect the fact that he has the right to run as does as does cornell west, as does all the other candidates. the point

is this is america, and we should have more choices than just two well, you know what our system needs. a lot of reform and i think most sane and thoughtful people could, it could agree with that. >> but i want to ask you about, you talk about how nobody you said if you ran not only would you be the youngest, but you could defeat trump and biden. >> and because people don't love them, well you do have a history with donald trump it's been a history that's gone through ups and downs. governor, right? he considered running for president in 2000 all the way back then under the reform party, which obviously was your party, right? you'd want you encouraged at the time over the years, there have been well, okay. okay. there's been good things you said about each other. i want to play that i know problem. yeah. >> the problem donald trump of 2000 is not donald trump today plain and simple. back then he was a democrat and was pro-choice. today's ultra right, and anti-choice you know, he ain't the same guy. well, you've actually and the

fact is donald trump because he chew because he changes, he does never tell the truth so know what i run with trump. absolutely not. now, back then we were third fledgling third party. we were looking for anything that could get us onto the map. that's what you've got to do as a third party. first and foremost, you we've got to win elections and you need candidates to do that. well, you're not always going to pick the best candidates just as democrats and republicans don't either. but let's move on to why i'm really here, aaron cannabis. >> all right. and you and you were about i was about to jump in and force you there, but you weren't you are going on. all right. so i know you're passionate about cannabis. it is how you spend your time. so can i ask you about this because you have put a lot of time into the effectiveness of medical marijuana and i know the reason you've done this is because you say it saved your family's life. it stopped your wife's seizures. so you've dedicated yourself to this

biden has moved to decriminalize it finally, it wasn't initial thought, but he has done that and change its federal classification in terms of its class how it's registered with the fta is that enough is there enough being done on here's your problem with that. >> who's making the decision here? the dea? well, there the enforcement agency. well, how come the legislature, the congress isn't making the decision? why does it go to the dea? the very people who profit from putting people in prison, having drugs, illegal there. now the ones that make the final decision on what's going to happen with cannabis ms federally. so the point is this more people like me who are stepping forward, i'm putting my face on marijuana. i've teamed up with retro bakery. it's called ventura farms and i'm going to shamelessly plug it now. and for everybody out there, that will be the focus of jesse ventura is life

because it saved my life. my wife was having seizures and our medicine couldn't help pharma did nothing. it couldn't help. had to go illegally to colorado at the time ten years ago and get cannabis. my wife sense since three drops under the tongue has not had a seizure sense. and what angers me is that the insurance companies will pay for all the pharma stuff that don't work at, but they won't pay for cannabis, which does work well governor thank you very much and i appreciate your store i'll finish by saying this will send you a care package. >> you won't have to have me on anymore. you can try it and you sell it for me. >> governor, it's been a real pleasure. >> thank you so much have a good one, erin. all right.

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commander use the word nuclear when talking about a response to israel escalating the rhetoric to a dangerous new level. tonight at this moment, i'm broadcasting next to the permanent mission of iran to the united nations. and that's where i'll sit down with a ron's foreign minister in just a few moments. >> for an exclusive live interview. >> it is his first interview with american media since iran attacked inside israel. now, i'm here and not in our studios because this is actually one of the only places that the iranian foreign minister is allowed to be while he's in the united states the state department has severely restricted his movements to just a few lake it locations in manhattan and to jfk airport it is vital to hear from the iranian foreign minister right now. he has the supreme leader's choice to be the face of iran during this crisis? a crucial player in determining whether the middle east and much broader plunges into an all-out war. i'm about to go into the iranian mission to meet the foreign minister for

that interview in just a moment. but first jeremy diamond, it's out front tonight from tel aviv juried on edge. israel vowing to retaliate after iran's unprecedented attack on israeli soil, them do not be sale. we will make our own decisions good in the state of israel will do everything necessary to defend itself and what it could trigger for how long should ask if the cell units regained commits this slide less act of aggression against our soil. >> this will lead to a more furrows shows ncbi or response as the israeli war cabinet meets behind closed doors this week reviewing military options, israeli officials are keeping iran guessing, offering no hints about when or how they will retaliate. >> the only certainty and israeli response will come, but it's clear the israelis are making a decision to act. we

hope they do so in a way that does is little to escalate this as possible israel was already on the verge of carrying out a retaliatory strike on monday, according to cnn analyst barak ravid. >> but ravid said the attack was called off at the last minute with two israeli officials citing operational reasons the warnings from iran are getting starker with a top iranian general issuing a thinly veiled threat to renew its pursuit of nuclear weapons. >> i gotta how do goon attacked ed if the fake zionist regime wants to use a threat to attack our country's nuclear centers as a means to put pressure on iran. it would be possible in to revise iran's nuclear doctrine and policies nuclear threats from iran, a reminder of the long history of conflict between the two countries. i also have a message today for the tyrants of tehran israel knows what you're doing and

israel knows where you're doing it israel will never let a regime that calls for our destruction to develop nuclear weapons not now not in ten years, not ever israel now battling or ron's top proxies in the region, hamas october 7 attack and daily rocket barrage has from hezbollah kicking a long simmering proxy conflict into higher gear the risk of direct war now looming larger than ever and aaron, as we await israeli military action, it's important to note that we're just days away from the jewish holiday of passover and tonight, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is invoking the symbolism of that holiday as he prepares a response to the iranian attack, citing a text from the passover seder, he says, the notion that they quote rise upon us to eliminate

us is especially real this year. >> a clear attempt to try and frame this threat from iran as existential as he prepares to give an order and jeremy, thank you very much. and i am now inside the iranian permanent mission to the united nations here in new york. and i'm here with the iranian foreign minister hussein amir-abdollahian and mr. foreign minister, thank you so much. >> israel has vowed to retaliate against the iranian strike over the weekend. >> do you think israel could strike as soon as tonight more parcel feeder deem shambhu sham, we draw the marty have given an answer on saturday night to the action the fees that during the past few

months, particularly two weeks ago, the israeli regime gone through the attack carried out against the consular building in damascus, syria our response to the israeli regime was limited in that hollywood and have on this theme stayed within a minimum of frameworks whereas we could have given a much harsher response to the israeli regime, parts of following that, we announced that this response is within the framework of legitimate defense according to international laws, i'm enough for him but we will not continue. however, in case the israeli regime adom embarks on adventurism, again takes action against the interests of iran full, then next response from

us will be immediate and at a maximum level, it will be decisive our response will be decisive through this way, embassy in tehran, we have announced to the white house sent a message such to the white house. again, washington dc. they administration in which we reiterated that if the israeli regime commit that grave error, once again, our response will be decisive, definitive, and regretful for we do not see that my unpack how very creatable tension water has seen crisis regime or increase such situations in the middle east. >> and we sincerely hope that they israeli regime does not repeat so you yes egregious. >> you say that response will be at a maximum level. you

also, i know have warned israel against crossing what you have used the words, quote unquote, red lines what are those red lines and what is the maximum level you use? what more than 300 drones, cruise missiles in that attack what would escalate from there for you? what is a maximum level above that hope? >> kept? well the red lines that they cross right? >> let's on a worldcat, the red line, have that israel crossed them honestly for it to move some pragmas upon the embassy bill for you? it's on me and during that attack seven officials military advisory carrying out a fight against terrorism, sudan were martyred through a missile attack. the regime of israel equal vienna conventions recognized vienna

conventions were not respected. so red lines are crossed by the israeli originally. however, 30 hour cheddar attack within the framework of legitimate defense. why do we call it carried out at a minimum yes, because it was i have no towards the mat se as the military targets. one, the nova team airbase and other one or and intelligence and stories. so get information centers. which attacks took place on mayorkas, our building we did not matter how good economic and financial centers, civilian centers have only fc0 two locations from which have 35 kraft, who were often when i say for more than hamlet alone, to cough from there, i had that

targeted the khan the embassy building in the golan out a whole lot. and this was our minimum response, ma general case of a repeated adventure seeking and adventurism are began their israeli regime. >> what will our maximum responsibly, i can only say that will be carried out at a maximum level and it will be regretful for them. then we details have been planned by the armed forces. my country, however, i do hope that you'll has not committed errors. >> would be a maximum level. but you mentioned that the minimum level as you're calling the strike the weekend, you're saying did not strike economic financial civilians, but i would assume a maximum strike which you say is planned would do those three things okay the sanjay de, but that extremely well thought out and surface that you, drones where year

thickly military targets, ascii dischord as you're within israeli territory, amman and our election and information shows that reflects that one we're able to reach our objective. >> one. >> we showed our willingness, pogo hyenas, army, but do you give a have two military installations from which targets were carried out against our embassy building in damascus. >> we carried out operations against those two centers. and the third point is that our operations in response where it feel more carried out at a minimum because we were not seeing to hit multiple multiple targets in the occupied palestinian territory's so you talk about how the strike, you say metro objectives. >> admiral john kirby, the us spokesperson for the national security council sees it very

differently. he described your strike on israel foreign minister as a quote, embarrassing failure what do you say to that maybe more you see we must say things very transparently and you don't clearly, first, our operations on israel's, we're not the. memo in hostile carried out in secret. we announced it well-over week prior that our response will be coming and will be resolute why? because through the attack on our embassy in her kid attacked our sovereignty violated hours sovereignty. >> mac, that's the end. >> also more trampled upon which the territorial integrity of syria prior to the operations, we announced to the americans that iran's attack

is circuit this standard was also conveyed to them through many other foreign ministers who were in contact with me and as well as through the swiss embassy in tehran so we in the word noticing precisely that the united states of america along with over 20 countries and a number of member, more nato countries where stood up in the region in order to neutralize searching hi, missiles and drones so that they could not reach israel however, our missiles and drones and good reach our two intended targets attack was known to have among middle even though they didn't know the precise time, but they knew that it would the curve fairly soon. as possible. it was

successful operation and at the size of response& a clear message to zionist regime so just to be clear you you intended for it to perform as it did. so there were a 99% of them were intercepted. a couple went through, there was no no significant damage done and that was the intent of the strike hi there for more hostile dabbled had our objective. >> warn our objective was john bidding true enough have more input. >> hey, can resume as well. >> action my and so as to send a clear message to be received by the government of israel and to let it note that we do have the means to respond. i will repeat again we never seek the

expansion of chaos and warfare tensions in the region. however, it is netanyahu and israeli regime sure. >> that that has caravan it and put it's political life within the framework of expansion of warfare intentions president joe biden spoke yesterday foreign minister, he talked about israel and ukraine and he said, and i quote him, we stand with our friends and we won't let iran or russia succeed if the united states helps israel again, it's, israel has said they will strike you, have now said, you will strike back your words at the maximum level. >> will you strike american targets maybe need more after me game had to act study. >> you see we say at a maximum fat toggle cornell, we mean 40.

israel commits that same mistake. i had that our response will be regretful for them immediate and decisive as definitive thing on him. >> and very palestinian occupied areas bomb because you have a in previous operation paul knopp announced to the americans, man that had better. >> now we will not target american bases and installations in the region other than if we come across a condition in which the united states of america puts itself, besides, is rarely the israeli government, connie, in order to expand the warfarin tensions, it is not within major interests. >> ben of america to do that, we believe that instead of seeking such, have i got out to be conversations? >> we must apiece that seek to

pay closer attention and focus on deeper issues. and i said at in my recents she with the secretary general of the united nations, we must see via israeli focus on israeli gi humanitarian abuses. the column and war crimes, genocide, if the war comes 20, the entire region we'll go back two stability and peace and everyone will come out a winner, including iran so if the united states helps israel again to defend against incoming missiles against iran, that will not, are you saying that will not? >> put american targets on your list martyrs, i bought a meconium we recall in it's

omri, that america, i saw william hi calculate that she swi goes and fording a two messages that were exchanged between us over the past six months to a year dominate. >> can they do believe that the expansion of where warfare in the region is not well some prospect by the united states of america because american knows that it doesn't benefit her, nor the interests of the united states of america has seen that are pursued in the region. >> we are hopeful that israel, but hoc am i can be stopped by them, throw they will not give renew permission for adventure seat shadow new apply. >> israel in case they do embark on more adventurism, the islamic republic of iran will be quite different i wait for the translation to finish. >> an iranian nuclear commander

today, mr. foreign minister said iran's nuclear policies could be changed if israel keeps threatening to attack iranian nuclear sites. what does that mean? >> baby need that mozilla has same vis-a-vis the nuclear issue. officials. that's for you. she iranian and position has been announced several times. we do have a religious decree of fatwa shoot by the supreme leader, the bar of the revolution of the islamic republic of iran. ayatollah harmony, and we've announced several times that the entire nuclear program of iran is in its totality within the framework of a peaceful hey, program. and we have been strictly focused beam on that gold, but we witnessed over the past few months that are repeated short israeli officials repeated that in

order to winning gaza, a nuclear weapon must be used by my israel and i do think that america must pay closer attention and focus on the adventure seeking regime in israel's. so that's such a crisis will not happen in gaza because netanyahu showed that he will not respect any red lines. so he's the one that must be brought under control. >> i want to ask you about some developments that have happened in iran in the context of this there has been a renewed push for women to wear hijab and obviously supreme leader has mentioned this in a couple of recent speeches sources tell cnn, morality police have been much more present on the streets and various iranian cities. there's a woman who didn't want her name used in our conversation. she's afraid of her safety, but just this week she said to cnn she was in the passenger seat of her husband's car without her

headscarf. she received a text from police warning her of non-compliance with the hijab policy see the text included her license number and other identifiers of the car warning or if she violated hijab laws. again, her car would be impounded the context here, of course, is two years ago, the widespread protests following the death that the 22 year-old young woman mahsa amini, who was arrested by morality police because of inappropriately wearing or not wearing a proper hijab why is this happening now and what will be the punishment for women who violated? >> maybe nid, mammary lamp fails. >> you see if beta, i wish to speak very transparent. the united states of america in certain western countries that are most pursuing a policy of double standards vis-a-vis many issues can as a matter of fact, he's a god yeah. >> you're right. it was all

while speaking to one of the foreign ministers of big european country, i told them to recall this sad, but any iranian girl do you remember they chaos that what's seen across the west because of that events whereas today is our zan over 15,000 women and thousands of children far been killed in gaza for damage or nothing happened regarding this specific issue left-hand a serious action and strong voice or that run the european governments certain european governments, and the united states government. you don't hear such voices or c, such actions. >> so the issue of her job shan there is a very well recognized and accepted issue in iran policy of double standards and

foreign meddling and provocation nezha, i'm get on king on to bring about a change. in this system in iran by using women as a tool within the framework of a so-called opposition. >> whereas women in iran are an important part of the country and effective part of the country influential led those protests about jobs though the women have aslan musleh hijab, qizan, escape absolutely not no matter your job is not a matter that can is that on that can be tied to saturable the existence part the important part that is played by women in iranian society. >> they know well, she, that visa v certain social behaviors. they know how to carry themselves by, don't believe to de, mosaic image

issue of iranian women and hijab for iranian women is not our principal challenge. >> the region. our principal challenging the region is the killing over 34,000 men, women, and children. >> mr. foreign minister, thank you very much for your time tonight. i appreciate it. and jim sciutto is with us as well here and jim, let me just send it down to you and of course, i'll join you all and just a few moments. >> that's right arrow is going to be back with those in just a moment. i'm jim sciutto in new york listening. there to her interview with iranian foreign minister amir abdullah heian, joining me now, general mark hertling, former army commanding general in europe and our fred pleitgen, who was recently in iran, general hurtling the foreign minister they're described the recent iranian attack on israel blake territory as being at a minimum level. he threatened a maximum level attack in response to any israeli retaliatory strike. i wonder what does a maximum level response look like in

your view? >> but you i wrote down a couple of things that was one of them. he not only set a maximum level, but it would be decisive and definitive that was immediately after he said the last operation was successful and decisive, it was not so that that is a miss categories categorization of exactly what iran did last saturday night it's my initial thought jim was iran should never do something for the first time in combat. it was obvious to me that the operation last saturday was disconnected, did not have an operational advantage and the foreign minister truthfully mischaracterized it as only going after military target they were successful at the naval and nava team airbases in the south. but as we all saw, there were, there were drones and ballistic missiles and cruise missiles exploding in various parts of the country. in fact, nic robertson was outside of jerusalem when several of them were shot down

over his head. so that was not geared just toward military targets, right? so i think for him to be saying the past was great and we'll do it even worse the next time tells me that they really don't have a really good operational plan for attempting that kind of operation in the future. >> it was notable. he also gave more detail on what he said were communications from iran to the us prior to those attacks, he said that they communicating the americans that the iranians would not target us positions although he left open the option of doing so if the us were to participate in any israeli retaliation, fred, at the end there you heard the foreign minister dismissed what have been sustained. protests led by iraniawomen acrosshe against the violent reacon to those who protest not wearing the hijab as, as somehow using the women of iran to challenge the regime you've been there many times. you've spoken to people involved in these protests that statement, that characterization is just

not true well, i mean, certainly iran has been dealing with this protests for an extended period of time. >> but what we've seen, even when those protests were going on, was the government of iran certainly the power center of iran essentially blaming that on foreign influence. that certainly isn't something that's it's necessarily knew. i can tell you that those protests certainly still are very much a sore point for those who are in power in iran. so that's definitely something that we've seen from the iranians in the past. i think one of the things though that really stood out for me in the interview is that first of all, one of the things that we have to keep in mind is that hossein amir-abdollahian is definitely one of the most powerful people right now in iran have been actually dealing with him since about 2015. he was then in charge of their syria policy in syria for an extended period of time. so when aaron speaking to him, she is speaking to the power center in iran and like general hurtling, i really found that the fact that he said that there's been so much message judging coming from the

iranians towards the united states is definitely fascinating. some of the messages that they've been trying to send. one of the other things that i picked up on as well, and i think also goes to a general hurtling was saying that the iranian should never do something for the first time in combat where he was saying that the iranians allegedly for this maximum strike, that. he was talking about that would happen if the israelis hit back, that the plans have already worked out and that they would they would take place as he put it on israeli territory. that's definitely something that stood out to me, jim, frederik, mark, thanks so much. >> aaron back in the chair following that incisive interview with iranian foreign minister all right thanks so much. and all of you in that conversation we are now back outside from that interview and thanks so much to all of you for being with us for this hour and our programming for that interview. and also course for governor ventura. and to our panel. thanks so much to all of you for joining us. that's handed off now ac30 60 with anderson cooper